Exposing PseudoAstronomy

November 3, 2009

Planet X and 2012: Why Gilbert Eriksen’s “Wormwood” Won’t Be Showing Up


Introduction

It’s been awhile since I’ve posted more “research”-type information on the whole 2012 and Planet X nonsense that abounds upon the internet. I was looking through my notes and came across some notes I made while listening to the June 29, 2009, episode of Coast to Coast AM that had an interview with Gilbert Eriksen.

Eriksen is big on Biblical prophecy (given the name he uses for Planet X, “Wormwood,” you could probably guess that). I will not be addressing his links to the Bible in this blog post as that is for someone else to do and is not the subject of this blog, nor is it my area of expertise. Rather, I will focus on the astronomy/geology/physics that he brought up in his interview on the radio show. If for some reason you are more interested in his work, you can visit his website, The Millennium Prophecy.

All posts in this series:

Eriksen’s Sense of Wormwood / Planet X

Eriksen claims several specific things about this object. First off is its orbit. During the second hour of the program, about 11 minutes in, he claims, “[The solstice] line is the line that Wormwood comes in on, arcs up over the sun, and goes back out on. It follows the solstice line produced.” About 12 minutes in, we also have, “Its transit time is about 1800 years … outbound … [so a round-trip of ~3600 years].”

Another area of interest for any astronomical body is its mass, which Eriksen says about 12 minutes into that second hour is “about 60 times Jupiter’s mass, it is about 1/17th of a solar mass.”

What about its diameter? “From the best that we can tell …, military sources, they think that it’s the size of Saturn, possibly as large as Jupiter.” (~12 min. in)

And what about the composition of this giant object? “[I]nstead of being a gas, it’s an iron-oxide [rust] ball – just a big giant iron ball. And it’s really heavy.” (~12 min. in)

But, this conflicts with what kind of object he claims it is: “Wormwood is a brown dwarf star, it is the sun’s binary companion.” (~12 min. in)

And, from what I can tell of his diagrams, he thinks that it is right now within the orbit of Jupiter.

Problems with this Basic Data

Let’s forego the very basic fact that if an object the size of Saturn or Jupiter were within the orbit of Jupiter that everyone on Earth would know about it. I’ve addressed this elsewhere. To be fair, though, he does claim that an amateur astronomer “can probably find it [Woormwood] now.” And it will be visible to any southern hemisphere observer. Of course, none have found it, which to any honest researcher would be a big clue that they should re-examine their hypothesis.

Let’s also forego the idea that an object with a 3600-year orbit in our solar system can’t work, either, as I’ve also already addressed that claim.

Rather, let’s look at his description of the object – a brown dwarf star, but also an object made of solid iron – and the size and mass.

Let’s get the math over with first. The density of pure water at room temperature at sea level on Earth is 1 gm/cm3 (this is by definition). The density of Jupiter is 1.33 times this. So it would sink. The density of Saturn is 0.69 times this, so it would float. Earth’s bulk average density of 5.52 gm/cm3.

Eriksen claims that his object is 60 times the mass of Jupiter. But its volume is somewhere between Saturn’s and Jupiter’s. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt in this calculation and say that it’s the volume of Jupiter. That would mean that the density of the object is 60×1.33 = 80. That’s right, 80 times the density of water. And yet, the density of iron is 7.85 times the density of water.

For comparison, the average density of the sun is 1.41 times that of water. Though, to be fair, the core is about 150-160x (depending upon what model you trust). But still, having such a high average density is an untenable situation. for an object with the features he claims.

Eriksen’s Claims of Activity

Besides the basic parameters of this object, part of the crux of his argument is that this Wormwood has active surface geology: “It’s probably volcanic. It throws massive amounts of iron oxide dust out, which are distributed through the inner node rings.” (~12 min. in)

And then we get to the real pseudo-science (as opposed to fake pseudo-science … or as opposed to what he claimed before) about 16 minutes into the second hour of the program:

What causes the grief is …this thing will spin, too. … This object has a very powerful baryonic field – you know, it has a lot of mass – and you spin it, it develops a node ring or ‘distortion field’ like a series of concentric hula hoops. These concentric hula hoops are then reflected back from the dark matter / dark energy of space (the dark soup, you know), and what you end up with are these concentric rings. Where those rings are around the sun, that’s where the planets orbit. Where the rings are around the Earth, that’s where the moons are. The same thing for Jupiter, Saturn. … If you take a planet like Saturn and really rev it up fast … then the thing will not only generate node rings for moons, but rings for ice and junk and all sorts of stuff. And the Cassini space craft got some excellent pictures. … Each one of the rings are spinning at a different speed with the fastest ones on the inside and the slowest ones on the outside. So spinning bodies generate these gravitational distortions. … And that’s where the asteroids and the space junk orbits Woormwood.

Huh?

Let’s attempt to dissect what Eriksen is claiming in that long quote. He’s basically saying, (1) Objects that have mass and that spin will generate “concentric nodal gravitational rings;” (2) it’s on the sun’s rings that planets orbit, on the planets’ rings that moons orbit, etc.; (3) these rings are also duplicated and made more complicated via reflections off of dark matter and dark energy; and (4) it’s on these rings that space junk orbits and will cause destruction on Earth.

Let’s address the foundational claim, that of the very existence of these concentric rings. Now, I took 14 physics classes in my undergraduate career, and I took 10 astronomy classes. I don’t happen to remember any mention of such a thing as gravitational nodal rings. But, I did a quick Google search just to see if my memory was failing at my ripe young age of 20-something. A Google search of “gravitational nodal rings” turns up only references to 2012, Planet X, Wormwood, or the like. Now, I don’t mean to dismiss this out of hand on that evidence, I suppose it’s possible that such a thing exists (perhaps they are thinking of gravitational waves that are thrown off by very massive objects like colliding neutron stars or spinning black holes?). But, the fact that the only people who are talking about them on the whole of the internet are Planet Xers should tell you something.

So then why (2) do the planets and moons orbit where they do? Because it’s where they happened to have formed or evolved into a resonance with another object. For example, three of the four main moons of Jupiter – Io, Europa, and Ganymede – orbit in a 4:2:1 resonance meaning that for one full orbit of Ganymede around Jupiter, Europa orbits twice, and Io orbits four times. The system probably didn’t form that way, in fact there’s evidence that Ganymede didn’t make it into that resonance until about 1-2 billion years ago, but it has nothing to do with gravitational nodes or rings.

As for (3), Eriksen is throwing out scientific-sounding terms when he has no idea what he’s talking about. Dark energy has to do with the expansion of the universe and is not something tangible that something can reflect off. Dark matter is non-baryonic material (you are made up of baryonic material) that we can only detect via its gravitational effects … again, not something that a mystical gravitational node ring could reflect off.

Since I’ve effectively explained why 1-3 are ridiculous, I really think we can eliminate (4) as there’s no longer anything to base it off.

What Destruction Does Eriksen Claim?

Like any good doomsday-sayer, Gilbert Eriksen of course makes specific claims of how this is going to destroy Earth. He has 6 specific claims that he makes during the second hour of the radio show, between about 18 minutes and 25 minutes. The first is taken as a quote from the radio show, while 2-6 are quotes from his website:

  1. “Number 1, a great earthquake. this is where the node rings of Woormwood take ahold of the Earth and just shake the livin’ liver out of it. … I think the first [earthquake] was the [December 25/26, 2004] tsunami, and that grabbed ahold of the plates down there.”
  2. “We get volcanic activity at tectonic plate edges … rims of fire that eject high tonnages of ash plume into the upper atmosphere that block out the sun light over large areas of the earth.”
  3. “Wormwood throws large tonnages of iron oxide dust and debris between the Earth and the moon or into Earth’s atmosphere. When we look through the veil of iron oxide dust, the moon takes on a blood red color.”
  4. “Wormwood throws asteroids and various forms of space junk into Earth’s atmosphere that impact on the surface as meteorites. Expect some severe tsunami events if there are impact pieces landing in the ocean that are of significant size.”
  5. “At least one of the volcanic eruptions will be a large pyroclastic explosion … a volcanic cone that will “blow its top” like Mt. St Helens in May, 1980. The blast concussion feels like the sky is ‘splitting apart’ anywhere within sound range of the cone. The curling action of the mushroom cloud when viewed from below looks like a scroll when it is allowed to spring back into the rolled up position.”
  6. “Tectonic shifting from the Wormwood node ring earthquake will shift the mountains and islands into different places. Displacements may be measured in tens or hundreds of feet of difference but the shifts will be measureable [sic] with modern surveying equipment. Again, with major earthquake activity and island movements expect severe tsunami events to follow for various coastal cities.”

For good measure, at 29 minutes into the program, he also states, “It can reach right through the Earth … and pull a continent down under the waves on one side of the Earth and pull a continent up out of the waves on the other side of the Earth and do it in 20 minutes. Does Atlantis ring a bell? What about Lemuria? There’s a very good chance you’ll see Atlantis rising in 2012 – that’s Woormwood talking.”

Are We Going to See This Destruction?

In a word, “no.” First, #1, 2, 4, and 5 are very general claims. Earthquakes happen. Space junk falls to Earth and we see meteorites landing on a daily basis. And volcanos also blow their tops. It just happens.

#3 won’t happen because in the previous section I explained his entire mechanism is fallacious, which then also applies to why #6 will not happen. As for Atlantis? I’ve addressed Atlantis before, too.

Final Thoughts

Gilbert Eriksen is another doomsday proponent with a Biblical twist that has a book to sell for $16.95, people to scare, but nothing to back him up except a lot of misunderstood terms at best and outright deceit at worst. He has no training in relevant physics, astronomy, nor geology fields, but rather is a “psychologist, linguist, and former helicopter pilot during the Vietnam War.”

What’s strange about him is that he makes specific predictions that are demonstrably false, some now (such as the visibility of this object), and some in the very near future (claiming, for example at 15 minutes into the interview, that in “May/June/July [of 2010] … it’s gonna get close enough to exchange atmospheric gases with the Earth”).

41 Comments »

  1. …Let’s just wait and see…

    Comment by yohan — November 18, 2009 @ 5:42 am | Reply

  2. Thanks for this. I do sympathize with Mr. Eriksen’s list of destructive events given my faith in the Bible. However these descriptive events when read directly from revelation could very well be caused by much more feasable factors including super volcanoes, large seismic events, and large asteroid impact all of which can happen without the help of a passing astronomical body.

    Comment by Shaine — November 26, 2009 @ 4:26 am | Reply

  3. I just had a pooproclastic explosion in my pants.

    Comment by miJ — November 28, 2009 @ 1:36 pm | Reply

  4. thanks for putting our minds at rest, can’t belive these scare mongers!

    Comment by Jm — February 6, 2010 @ 9:20 am | Reply

  5. the writer above is clueless
    I have tracked the dwarf star now for 6 months ,
    naked eye,infrared,and high powered binoculars and by late July it will be about moon size and by mid August cover one fifth of the sky

    Comment by highwic — February 15, 2010 @ 8:34 pm | Reply

    • Get back to me in 6 months, we’ll see.

      Comment by astrostu206265 — February 15, 2010 @ 8:36 pm | Reply

      • The bottom line is NO BODY has EVER been able to tell me where to look in the sky! What constellation is it in? What are the coordinates in the night sky? Nice that you can watch it and no one else can. Who told you where to look and what kind of telescope are you using. I’ll bet $100 dollars that I will not get an answer or it will be cryptic. You’ll say sorry it just move behind the sun. I’ve heard that one before. Or you can’t see it from the northern hemisphere. Well I have relatives in New Zealand, so what is that constellation or the coordinates again?

        Comment by Clifford A Taylor — March 1, 2010 @ 5:48 pm

    • Hiya, highwic! Care to say .. “wooops” .. at this point? Your attempts to point at Jupiter or Venus were worth a try but given they are exactly where and exactly as bright as they should be, and even a cheap pair of binoculars will verify Jupiter’s Moons..

      … I’m afraid, the word FAIL springs to mind…

      (Not to mention your incredibly ignorant error below where you claim Jupiter moves 30 degrees each year from an EARTHLY point of view (IT DOESN’T). Highwic, if you are gunna try on a hoax, at least learn the BASICS.)

      Comment by Chrlz — July 31, 2010 @ 10:56 pm | Reply

      • Just so you and others know, highwic has been banned from posting comments on this site. He has tried to break through it many times with ignorant comments like, “You couldn’t ban a fly” (much cleaned up version), but obviously I can. He is the only person I have ever banned from this site due to his language, attacks, and inability to back up anything he says with anything other than profanity.

        Comment by Stuart Robbins — August 1, 2010 @ 9:20 am

  6. only God knows the exact time , day, month and year whent he world will end. Love your lives, dont worry about it. If your a good Christian, he will take care of you no matter what happens

    Comment by tim law — March 1, 2010 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  7. I’ll tell you where to look, look up any sky chart over the last 6 months and where they’ve put Jupiter that is Wormwood
    look here for a correct position of Jupiter
    http://www.youtube.com/user/highwic

    Comment by highwic — March 1, 2010 @ 11:01 pm | Reply

    • I’m sorry, but your claim here is laughable. Jupiter is Jupiter. Look at it and you’ll see the cloud bands or – if you don’t have a more powerful telescope, then you’ll at least see the Galilean Satellites. Claiming that “any sky chart” has replaced Jupiter with Wormwood and labeled it Jupiter is either a joke or fairly delusional.

      Comment by astrostu206265 — March 2, 2010 @ 9:51 am | Reply

      • I will be having the last laugh here idiot
        if you go to my you tube channel and have the intelligence to figure out the background image then you will be able to get with the program otherwise just stay in the dark like most of the World
        http://www.youtube.com/user/highwic

        Comment by highwic — March 2, 2010 @ 10:01 pm

      • I realize that you came here from the Christian Forums where someone posted a link to my blog, and you may be used to different levels of discourse, but here there are rules of evidence and civility. Technically, I have the last laugh, and I can quite easily ban you from posting. I would hope not to have to do that, but I will if you don’t post things that are relevant or if your posts are purposely inflammatory.

        Comment by astrostu206265 — March 3, 2010 @ 8:13 am

      • do you have windows live messenger as I would need to guide you to various url’s and through some pages to show the proof

        Comment by highwic — March 6, 2010 @ 6:23 pm

      • You can post links to actual evidence here. Or explain the relevant observations or physics or astronomy. Keep in mind that posting links to sites that I have already shown to be wrong would not be considered evidence.

        An example of a physical argument (though in this case it’s against your claims) is that an object that makes repeated passes through the solar system that is as massive as a star or a giant planet would disrupt the asteroid belt with each pass, and if this happened on a relatively short orbit (e.g., 10,000 years) then there should not be a stable asteroid belt that we observe today. An example of observational evidence would be to give coordinates of your object and what to look for. An example of unacceptable observational evidence is claiming that your Wormwood object is where every piece of astronomy software and print materials claims Jupiter is, as it is simple for nearly anyone to look at that location in the sky and see that the object is actually Jupiter.

        Comment by astrostu206265 — March 6, 2010 @ 6:45 pm

      • in the nasa url
        http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=1000&vbody=1001&month=12&day=1&year=2008&hour=00&minute=00&fovmul=1&rfov=10&bfov=30&porbs=1&brite=1

        Dec 1 2008 it states from above which is a lie as far as Jupiter and Venus are concerned
        it is in fact how the conjunction would look like from the northern hemisphere,
        if viewed from the southern hemisphere the conjunction would be to the right of the Sun and from the Equator the conjunction would be in line with the Sun
        the true position of Jupiter would be 30 deg down from where it is on the above image
        the next url is proof, look at northern and southern hemisphere photos of the conjunction and the 1 near the equator
        http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?PHPSESSID=aa75vlhiii4ubnuu02ftildka2&month=12&day=01&year=2008&view=view
        as you can see this puts all following images
        of Jupiter 30 deg out of its true position up to the present day….. COUP DE GRACE

        Comment by highwic — March 6, 2010 @ 7:26 pm

      • Your post does not make sense. You seem to be talking about the “smiley face” or “frowny face” conjunction in December 2008, between the moon, Venus, and Jupiter (a conjunction I actually photographed, but that’s a different story).

        Viewing the conjunction from the northern or southern hemisphere will not change its location relative to the sun because Earth isn’t that big of a planet – the difference in viewing angle is too small. Viewing it at slightly different times – since the moon moves relatively quickly – would turn the smile/frown upside-down, or show it in an intermediate phase like this one.

        How you’re claiming that Jupiter is 30° from where it’s “supposed” to be is still confusing to me as you still don’t say where it’s “supposed” to be. Keep in mind that Jupiter has an ~11-12 year orbit around the sun, and hence about every year will move one constellation over, or around 30°. So now, in March 2010, Jupiter should be VERY roughly 35° from where it was in December 2008, relative to the background stars.

        Comment by astrostu206265 — March 7, 2010 @ 6:35 pm

      • you said
        then there should not be a stable asteroid belt that we observe today.

        there is nothing stable about it

        Comment by highwic — March 7, 2010 @ 3:33 am

      • The image you show has nothing to do with stability. It shows orbits of many near-Earth asteroids that are on STABLE orbits. Stability refers to the fact that the asteroid belt, as a whole, has “relaxed” to a state where its structure does not vary much. If you were to throw a giant planet through it, it would disrupt the belt so that the asteroids would no longer be on near-circular orbits. In a stable belt, among the millions of asteroids, it does not change the stability when a few get knocked around every now-and-then.

        Comment by astrostu206265 — March 7, 2010 @ 6:08 pm

  8. Just one last comment then I’m going to go away. First let me say thank you astrostu206265 for this form. It’s nice to be able to ask questions and share opinions.

    Highwic I asked for the constellation it was in and what kind of telescope you were using you couldn’t answer me. That’s typical no one to date has been able to give me a straight answer on that question. So I guess I don’t need to sit down and write out a check for a hundred dollars. Wow that’s a relief.

    As far as Jupiter being replaced in the sky charts by planet X. There are astronomy programs and charts that can chart the positions of every planet for amateur astronomers. I don’t think that these programs or all of the charts have been sabotage to hide Jupiter’s real position. Across this country alone there are probably at least 1,000 amateur astronomers. Possibly much more that’s just a guess. To fool that many people into believing that Jupiter is not where it is supposed to be and is really planet X is not very likely. That’s a lot of people to fool and some of them are pretty smart.

    I am not a complete disbeliever in planet X. I’ve done a lot of reading on it and related material and believe it’s in the realm of possibility. Whether it’s in the in the realm of probability is another question entirely. The problem is years have gone by and absolutely no evidence of its existence has been revealed.

    Out of curiosity I got out my old math books and I set down one weekend to figure out what a 3,600 year elliptical orbit would be like. I also used one of those astronomy programs I was talking about. One of the major problems in figuring out its speed and path of planet X is its mass. Anything too massive coming through our system, say the size of Dark Star, would destroy it. There would not be a 3,600 year elliptical orbit at all. Anything that has a mass of let’s say 10 times that of Jupiter would shift every orbit of every planet in the system. This would be catastrophic to say the least. An object with the mass and size of Jupiter would be the only thing that would have any hope of passing through the system on a regular 3,600 year elliptical orbit. One thing I did notice is that no matter what the mass with an elliptical orbit of 3,600 years the time it would take for it to pass inside of Jupiter’s orbit to the time it left Jupiter’s orbit would be about 3 years 160 days.

    Realizing this it occurred to me that if an object of this size entered our system there would be plenty of time for anyone with the most modest of telescopes to see it. In other words this is not going to be a weekend event. If this event occurs that is. It will make the news. It cannot be hidden. I feel that this is an important point. Until someone can point to the sky and say look in Virgo or Orion or some other constellation this topic is just an amusing time passer.

    Again astrostu206265 thank you for your blog and your patients in the many posts and comments I’m sure you get.

    Comment by Clifford A Taylor — March 3, 2010 @ 6:50 pm | Reply

    • you said
      I asked for the constellation it was in and what kind of telescope you were using
      it moves from 1 constellation to the next
      as I said before look on any skymap in last 6 months and where you see Jupiter , that is WW
      you said
      As far as Jupiter being replaced in the sky charts by planet X. There are astronomy programs and charts that can chart the positions of every planet for amateur astronomers. I don’t think that these programs or all of the charts have been sabotage to hide Jupiter’s real position
      they have been and I can prove it !!!!
      you said
      Anything that has a mass of let’s say 10 times that of Jupiter would shift every orbit of every planet in the system.
      rubbish
      as I said I can prove Jupiter is not where they’ve put it

      Comment by highwic — March 6, 2010 @ 5:38 pm | Reply

      • highwic – As you can see, I have already removed one of your comments on here due to content/language/tone. I’ve noticed you’ve already been banned on one of the forums where you’ve been talking about this due to similar reasons, among other things. I will give you one more opportunity: If your next post on here is not actual evidence, then you will not be posting here anymore. Saying, “I can prove it !!!!” without evidence or by linking to a YouTube video of an overexposed Jupiter for 3 minutes is not evidence. Calling a claim “rubbish” when it is correct (and fairly simple to show by standard Newtonian physics) does not help your cause. Saying that Jupiter has been replaced on sky charts by Planet X when anyone can turn a 200mm lens or longer towards where Jupiter is claimed to be and see that it’s Jupiter just wastes everyone’s time. Oh, and claiming, “the site https://pseudoastro.wordpress.com is run by chidlren who know nothing about space, are complete idiots and have no credibility PERIOD” is not conducive to wanting me to stand by and tolerate your contentless comments on here.

        Comment by astrostu206265 — March 6, 2010 @ 6:15 pm

      • I agree with you, that there is major cover up, I did see the actual proof, but posting it will mean doom! I have see the MIB and there not nice! so I will say “yes” you are correct, but to come out with proof would mean that you yourself would be taken care of, if you know what I mean! GL!

        Comment by Don — December 3, 2014 @ 8:19 pm

  9. highwic has called me an idiot. He features defocused videos of a street lamp for evidence. Probability doesn’t even own a telescope, so that he can look at Jupiter and see it is Jupiter. Please feel free to band me for the next statement. It really won’t hurt my feelings. You know your arguing with a twelve year old! You know the argument has gotten stupid. You show great patients, but please just band him and end this. Band me too I really don’t care. In a way I feel sorry for him he doesn’t have much common sense.

    Comment by Clifford A Taylor — March 7, 2010 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

    • He has been banned. I have already removed about a half dozen of his posts.

      Comment by astrostu206265 — March 7, 2010 @ 7:16 pm | Reply

      • Thank You astrostu206265 . Along the road of life there are people that you encounter that you would like to get to know a little better, but don’t. You are one of those. There are also those who you don’t even want your dog to be around, because you know your dog would come back from the encounter permanently missing several points of IQ. I wonder who that could be. Good by. Take care.

        Comment by Clifford A Taylor — March 8, 2010 @ 3:16 am

  10. highwic..

    the lucus site is down!!! have you got any word of wuz up??

    Comment by tony — April 17, 2010 @ 2:20 pm | Reply

    • no not yet

      Comment by Graham — April 17, 2010 @ 4:53 pm | Reply

    • lucus site up again

      Comment by Graham — April 18, 2010 @ 1:17 pm | Reply

  11. I also heard the Eriksen interview on C To C. I know nothing about astronomy but my oldest grandson is a student at the College of Charleston, S.C.
    I gave him the information about Eriksen’s claims when he was taking his astronomy class and he passed it on to his Professor.
    On a recent visit home he told me his former Professor has resigned his position at the college and no one has a clue why.
    From what he has been told he sold his home at a loss and just left with his family in a matter of weeks. He was a full tenured professor.
    How can the average guy like me get information about where to look for Wormwood?

    Comment by C Byrd — April 23, 2010 @ 6:46 am | Reply

    • By mentioning the Eriksen interview and your son’s astronomy professor in the same post, I am assuming you are correlating the two. However, there is zero evidence they are related and the one has nothing to do with the other. As for your question, I would hope that you realize the answer from reading my blog … such as even the title of this post.

      Comment by astrostu206265 — April 23, 2010 @ 12:04 pm | Reply

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  13. Your old world knowledge of our sun makes your whole hypothesis; yes hypothesis, lopsided. Our sun actually has an iron core. Its core is almost binary in itself. Until you understand how pop 2 stars are formed, your hypothesis will always sink. So blather onward on the whys and hows. YES, iron is 7.85 sg. However, your hypothesis doesn’t include gravimetric spin rate for an iron core as a ferrous fluid; which could be exponentially greater than sg 1.0. Note: most super heated cores will become ferrous fluids. When you understand this concept then you will have a handle on how gravity really works and how we can have a super density celestial object. Thus Eriksen’s theory is NOT out of the celestial ball park.

    Comment by Teh JC — July 17, 2010 @ 8:01 pm | Reply

  14. In my experience, most of the info regarding Nemesis/Wormwood/Nibiru is false. However, there are scientists who have identified the possibilities of a 10th planet to our solar system through scientific research with credible results. I’m not saying that Nemesis is real. I’m not saying it cannot exist. What I am saying is most people do not have the scientific back ground or resources to make extraordinary claims supporting either position. When you are all serious about this issue; you will then look and find the scientists and the NASA research asserting there is another celestial body beyond Pluto gravimetrically bound to our Sun. I’m not talking about the 1980’s IRAS and Pioneer news posts regarding a 10th planet. Do some research. You Tube is not research. Google is not research.

    Comment by Teh JC — July 17, 2010 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

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  16. this whole Christian thingy is too much
    does that mean that non Christians will simply “die in the apocalypse”?? that’s absurd
    as for the wormwood, any object 60 times the volume of jupiter should appear as big as the moon, especially if it comes once in 3600 years.
    i live in india, so i dnt get much light pollution and after looking quite hard, im afraid i see no “Wormwood”,”Nibiru”, or “Planet X”.

    Comment by Shivam — February 22, 2011 @ 12:04 am | Reply

    • its still too far away, Kuiper Belt, wont be up close till 2018 or 2019

      Comment by Graham — July 27, 2013 @ 11:57 pm | Reply

  17. its still too far away, Kuiper Belt, wont be up close till 2018 or 2019

    Comment by Graham — February 2, 2013 @ 12:21 am | Reply

  18. Well,if it is there,a group of people would be assigned a well planned out task of dispersing disinformation to turn the people who can be turned away from believing whatever the particular sensitive topic happens to be. Including this one. And all else being considered,is probably the most intellectual thing to do so that society would remain stable until the topic is no longer deniable. The moral thing to do would be to broadcast the facts however. Not everyone would believe it anyways,and for the civilized ones who do,they can get thier affairs in order with society and thier loved ones.

    Comment by Ted Tual — May 31, 2015 @ 12:31 pm | Reply

  19. well folks planet x is now on final approach
    this is where it was in Dec 2012 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=v5wih4&s=9#.W941UDFoSpq
    in the early 2000s I used to play backgammon with some 1 from the SPT he told me they were watching it and that it was speeding up and slowing down

    Comment by highwic — November 3, 2018 @ 5:03 pm | Reply


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