Exposing PseudoAstronomy

April 8, 2013

Podcast #70: The Ringmakers of Saturn

The Ringmakers of Saturn, a book by Norman R. Bergrun, presents one of the most “out there” ideas I’ve discussed yet on the podcast. But, it’s still a decent teaching tool, worth briefly talking about.

I also have a Q&A, corrections, and Feedback.


  1. How do I play the podcast????

    Comment by Yonker — April 8, 2013 @ 9:41 pm | Reply

    • Go to the link and click the download link on the page for the episode.

      Comment by Stuart Robbins — April 8, 2013 @ 9:46 pm | Reply

  2. … OK. When you said “out there”, I was picturing some remarkably novel bit of physics or something …

    Comment by davidgerard — April 9, 2013 @ 12:01 am | Reply

    • Well,
      I would agree that the ‘idea’ could be considered ‘novel’.

      Comment by Trebor — April 9, 2013 @ 10:15 am | Reply

  3. You might be interested that the year (1985) before the Ringmakers of Saturn was published (1986), Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle published the novel Footfall. Which opens with the F-ring being discovered and revealed to the reader to be the exhaust of an alien spacecraft coming to Earth.

    Speaking of Larry Niven, looking forward to your response to the question I asked about ‘One Face’.

    Comment by Graham — April 10, 2013 @ 10:06 am | Reply

  4. Thanks for the exposé. I have a fascination of belief, especially when rooted in unfounded or disproved soil. …suboptimal metaphor, ah well.

    Comment by ThorGoLucky — April 12, 2013 @ 3:14 pm | Reply

  5. Did you ever see anything where Hoagland pointed out some alleged photographic anomalies in Saturn’s rings? He’ll go after any silly nonsense that is in out intrastellar (hope that’s the right word) neighborhood.

    Comment by Julian Janssen — April 13, 2013 @ 6:49 am | Reply

    • Hoagland says so much … I don’t remember anything specific about the rings, though.

      Comment by Stuart Robbins — April 13, 2013 @ 10:11 am | Reply

  6. Great show! As always it was witty, interesting, and informative. Ive always been intrigued by Saturn’s rings, any chance of an episode on how the rings actually formed?

    Comment by andrew chase — April 16, 2013 @ 12:02 pm | Reply

    • What about an interview with Larry Esposito about the origin of the rings and whether they’re young or old?

      Comment by Stuart Robbins — April 16, 2013 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

      • Great, I’m looking forward to it.

        Comment by andrew chase — April 17, 2013 @ 10:43 am

  7. Good show, I downloaded the PDF to look at the pictures (I felt like I needed to wash my hands after !). I can’t believe this is serious, I can look at some of the moon landing hoax claims ans can see where they’re coming from (e.g. the C rock), but these pictures are just noise, how does anyone else believe this?! Even with the “annotations” it’s impossible to make out what he’s seeing, incredible.


    Comment by Steve Archbold — May 2, 2013 @ 4:51 am | Reply

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