Exposing PseudoAstronomy

February 10, 2010

Another Winter Storm, More “Global Warming Hoax” In the News


Well, the intro to this is basically the title of this post: Another winter storm blankets the eastern U.S., and of course we have, as a result, people trying to use it as evidence against global climate change.

Good Time Article

Last time I made a post like this – last month – I gave kudos to ABC News and their article explaining that climate is NOT the same as weather. This time, I would like to draw attention to Time article, “Another Snowstorm: What Happened to Global Warming?” by Bryan Walsh. Another good article that understands “it’s a mistake to use any one storm — or even a season’s worth of storms — to disprove climate change.”

The most relevant part are the following two paragraphs (emphasis mine):

“Climate models also suggest that while global warming may not make hurricanes more common, it could well intensify the storms that do occur and make them more destructive.

“But as far as winter storms go, shouldn’t climate change make it too warm for snow to fall? Eventually that is likely to happen — but probably not for a while. In the meantime, warmer air could be supercharged with moisture and, as long as the temperature remains below 32°F [0 °C], it will result in blizzards rather than drenching winter rainstorms. And while the mid-Atlantic has borne the brunt of the snowfall so far this winter, areas near lakes may get hit even worse. As global temperatures have risen, the winter ice cover over the Great Lakes has shrunk, which has led to even more moisture in the atmosphere and more snow in the already hard-hit Great Lakes region, according to a 2003 study in the Journal of Climate.”

The article also points out that the fallacy of equating weather and climate is used by people on both sides of the debate – both by people claiming winter storms disprove climate change and by people claiming that droughts or record highs during a month period mean that global warming is definitely happening.

Final Thoughts

Wow! A short blog post! Okay, but anyway, as is generally the case with a politically charged issue, and with one where there are people who are dogmatically set on a premise that fundamentally misunderstands the basic concepts, any ray of hope that can be grasped by a current event is used and exploited to its fullest. As I’ve mentioned before, unsurprisingly George Noory had on guest Robert Felix at the beginning of tonight’s Coast to Coast AM show to talk about how this storm and other record lows and snows prove his own pet ideas – that we’re going into an ice age, not a warming period. Sigh.

But, this Time article is an example of more good science reporting, and trying to explain to a misunderstanding public that weather and climate are two different things.



  1. Always funny that the folks making jokes about the winter weather being proof that global warming isn’t happening, never make jokes about the Winter Olympics in Vancouver having a snow-less mountain, or the recent Brown Christmas in Alaska (which is arguably a source for much better jokes).

    The biggest joke of course, is that the current weather pattern is very likely caused by a chance event in the Arctic Oscillation, of which even Jim Hansen says that it’s not very likely to be influenced by global warming.

    Comment by Just Bored... — February 10, 2010 @ 4:38 am | Reply

  2. I suggest considering this rather prescient information, which specifically refers to “unnatural climate change” and its many manifestations (http://theyfly.com/lost/sfath.prophecies.1951.htm):

    21. Through the guilt of the people, all storms will assume increasing and more violent forms, such as hail storms, blizzards and flooding rains, as however also the ozone-layer will become very dangerously damaged.

    22. Monstrous deluges will belong ever more to the order of the day, because through the overpopulation, the forest wetlands and swampy plains will become altered in function to become residential areas, whereby the wild waters of the flooding rain will find their way into the houses of the people because they can no longer escape into uninhabited wetland areas.

    23. Landslides and avalanches, as well as earthquakes and seaquakes as well as every kind of storms will prevail; gales and typhoons, hurricanes and tornados will increase ever more in their numbers and will become ever more violent and destructive.

    24. And also therewith overpopulation will bear the guilt, because overpopulation will become monstrously negative and will thereby give rise to an unnatural climate change that in only one decade from today will already begin to effect the world very detrimentally.

    Then there is this from 1958 (http://theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm):

    54.) Through the madness of his overpopulation, the human has already detrimentally altered the world and the climate in such a way that a climbing climatic warming becomes apparent that will be carried far into the Third Millennium and release monstrous natural catastrophes, yet that will not be the end, because everything goes further in the same style and at the beginning of the Third Millennium more than seven billion people will be on the Earth, which will lead to even greater harm and to destruction worldwide because on one hand nature strikes back in vengeance and on the other hand, the human undertakes everything which will destroy the entire environment and life.

    Meier wrote and published these when he was 14 and 21 years-old, respectively.

    See also:


    ..and this article for a very comprehensive commentary:


    Comment by Michael Horn — February 10, 2010 @ 9:20 pm | Reply

  3. Michael Horn wrote:

    Gentlemen, I beg you, permanently reject me as a member of your little pathetic little club here, as belonging to it could seriously tarnish my own reputation.

    And yet, you’re back. You really seem to want in, Horn. Did Toast Masters reject your application? Is our pathetic little club your University of Michigan. Your safety school? Assuming this isn’t some SEO project for you and the bevy of silly links you’re hoping to rocke… beamship up the Google ranks, and you really want to be part of our pathetic little club, you’re going to have to start off as a plebe and undergo our pathetic little initiation rituals. Okay?

    (Stuart, do you grease up this time or do I? If you can’t remember, I’ll rock paper scissors you.)

    Comment by kamamer — February 11, 2010 @ 11:01 am | Reply

  4. What is the usefulness of predictions if we don’t have the science to back it up.
    Already in the late 1800 the idea that CO2 could warm the air arose and in the 40-50s the idea
    was taken seriously. If one can’t point to the data then anyone can say anything and clame it is a prediction.

    Thanks for yet another great blog post.

    PS: Also, Jon Stewart on the Daily Show did a funny bit on this a couple of days ago.

    Comment by Sparx — February 12, 2010 @ 3:11 am | Reply

  5. Like I said earlier, warm air becomes saturated with water due to increased evaporation. When it hits cold air high levels of rain or even snow are caused. Climate change therefore increases wehather instability not just ‘warming’

    Michael, inspite of kamamer’s attitude, thanks for returning and contributing again. However inspite of what your information sources say, Global warming is not caused by human guilt or ‘over population’ (maybe over American life style (isation)) but billions live with neglibible co2 output. Not that co2 is the cause but that’s another story.

    Comment by Steve — February 12, 2010 @ 5:06 am | Reply

  6. Sorry to double post but this is an interesting quote

    “William Gray, professor emeritus, works in the atmospheric science
    department of Colorado State University. He’s mentored dozens of scientists.

    And he’s outraged.

    Much of his government funding has dried up. He has had to put more than
    $100,000 of his own money into keeping his research going. “If none of his
    colleagues comes to his funeral,” he says, “that’ll be evidence that he had the
    courage to say what they were afraid to admit.”
    Namely, that “global warming is a hoax.” ”

    Not that I totally agree but the lck of consensus interesting. But he works at Colorado State University???

    Comment by Steve — February 12, 2010 @ 5:33 am | Reply

    • That’s what happens to people with the courage of their convictions. Dr. Gray had a choice; ‘good science’ or ‘toe the government line’… hmm.

      It doesn’t make sense for someone to sacrifice so much by disagreeing with the government if their science has even the slightest chance of being flawed.

      Comment by himnextdoor — February 21, 2010 @ 11:27 pm | Reply

  7. Government sponsored ‘scientific’ researchers are producing evidence that conflicts with independent ‘scientific’ research. Some research shows that the oceans are going through a period of cooling which can be expected to go on for another twenty years while government sponored organisations claim the opposite.

    I think it is amusing that everyone supports their government’s position; they wouldn’t lie about something like that would they? No? Why should they? What’s in it for them? And why is it that people who challenge the global-warming argument are labelled ‘Global-Warming Deniers’? Are they like ‘Holocaust Deniers’?

    The global-warming theory has given the Government an excuse to collect more taxes; green-tax, CO2 levies, recycling-fund charges. That’s what global-warming is all about. It’s an exercise in scaremongering, just as the war on terror is, designed to justify taking more of your money from you.

    There are some eminent scientists who find that global-warming is either a false premise entirely while some say that any global-warming that IS taking place is not as a result of human activity. Why would they say that? Because they want the world to end?

    Of course not; they say it because they believe it. They entertain the possibity that governments can be disingenuous, that perhaps large sums of money given over for research may influence how scientific research is done.

    Think about it. If there was a chance that humans were causing global-warming wouldn’t the scientists convinced against that conclusion err on the side of caution? For the sake of the planet? Wouldn’t they say; we don’t agree with you but it’s better to be safe than sorry? Of course they would.

    I wonder, what does dropping billions of dollar’s worth of bombs in the Middle-East do for global-warming?

    Governments cherry-pick evidence to support their claims so therefore any scientific report commisioned by them and released by them should be taken with a large pinch of salt. And the scientists who carried out research and allowed themselves to be constrained by a government remit should be ashamed of themselves for continuing a tradition of advancing science that was characterised by the inquisition.

    In other words, advocates of the global-warming arguments should consider the possibility that the government may be lying to them and that the independent scientists may be right.

    Comment by himnextdoor — February 21, 2010 @ 10:50 pm | Reply

  8. I wonder if people used to refer to Gallileo as ‘a geocentric universe denier’.

    I don’t know about a global warm-up but a global wake-up would benefit humanity greatly.

    Comment by himnextdoor — February 21, 2010 @ 11:31 pm | Reply

  9. When George Noory inherited Coast to Coast AM he proved himself as an able and entertaining host. It’s so sad to see him betray the listeners like this and become another Premiere/Clear Channel climate change denier. Not a week goes by now when he doesn’t have some intellectually dishonest “on the payroll” oil company shill burn up at least an hour on the public airwaves.

    Comment by UFO Nut — August 30, 2011 @ 9:50 pm | Reply

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