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		<title>Comment on Podcast #75: Young-Earth Creationist, David Coppedge, Sues NASA for Discrimination, and He Loses by Rick K.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree the whole effort by the defense team to make Coppage&#039;s case a cause celebre was obvious from the start.  A few Christians almost reflexively default back to martyrdom, even to the point of begging to be persecuted, even though nobody wants to bother with them.  Compared to the real persecution that is happening in places like Egypt, the occasional inconveniences American Christians cry out about become ludicrous.

What Coppage needs to do is find a way to be less annoying to his co-workers.  That is his real failing -- the one he refuses to change.  Coppage worked his way up to a management position, so he obviously has skills.  If he had learned to keep his opinions more to himself or at least saved them for outside of work hours, he probably would&#039;ve been more valuable to keep around or likely find employment with one of the private space venture companies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the whole effort by the defense team to make Coppage&#8217;s case a cause celebre was obvious from the start.  A few Christians almost reflexively default back to martyrdom, even to the point of begging to be persecuted, even though nobody wants to bother with them.  Compared to the real persecution that is happening in places like Egypt, the occasional inconveniences American Christians cry out about become ludicrous.</p>
<p>What Coppage needs to do is find a way to be less annoying to his co-workers.  That is his real failing &#8212; the one he refuses to change.  Coppage worked his way up to a management position, so he obviously has skills.  If he had learned to keep his opinions more to himself or at least saved them for outside of work hours, he probably would&#8217;ve been more valuable to keep around or likely find employment with one of the private space venture companies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast #75: Young-Earth Creationist, David Coppedge, Sues NASA for Discrimination, and He Loses by Phil</title>
		<link>http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/podcast-75-young-earth-creationist-david-coppedge-sues-nasa-for-discrimination-and-he-loses/#comment-8630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The case couldn&#039;t have gone any other way, of course, but naturally Coppedge and the DI will do their utmost to turn him into a martyr to the cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case couldn&#8217;t have gone any other way, of course, but naturally Coppedge and the DI will do their utmost to turn him into a martyr to the cause.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In the News:  David Coppedge Sues JPL for Religious Discrimination by Phil</title>
		<link>http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/in-the-news-david-coppedge-sues-jpl-for-religious-discrimination/#comment-8629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 06:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It means exactly what it says. It means the government must be rigorously neutral in all matters of religion. Not only must it allow individuals to practice either the religion of their choice or no religion at all with absolutely no coercion, it cannot support or oppose any particular religion or all religions in any way.

That means no tax money can be spent on, for or against ANY religious activity, and that specifically prohibits public schools from advocating religious beliefs such as creationism and intelligent design. It does NOT mean public school students can&#039;t pray privately or form after-school religious clubs as that would violate their right to practice religion. Nor does it prohibit teaching classes ABOUT the religions of the world as long as they&#039;re not actually advocated. Otherwise it wouldn&#039;t even be legal to teach Greek mythology, but it obviously is.

Now there are people (such as the Discovery Institute) who claim with a straight face that intelligent design is somehow different from creationism, and that the name change isn&#039;t just a cynical attempt to get around the First Amdentment and into science classrooms where it doesn&#039;t belong. But judges aren&#039;t quite that stupid, especially one judge in particular: John E. Jones III of the Middle District of Pennsylvania. He wrote such a good opinion on Katzmiller v. Dover Area School District that the Discovery Institute hasn&#039;t been heard from quite as much since.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means exactly what it says. It means the government must be rigorously neutral in all matters of religion. Not only must it allow individuals to practice either the religion of their choice or no religion at all with absolutely no coercion, it cannot support or oppose any particular religion or all religions in any way.</p>
<p>That means no tax money can be spent on, for or against ANY religious activity, and that specifically prohibits public schools from advocating religious beliefs such as creationism and intelligent design. It does NOT mean public school students can&#8217;t pray privately or form after-school religious clubs as that would violate their right to practice religion. Nor does it prohibit teaching classes ABOUT the religions of the world as long as they&#8217;re not actually advocated. Otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t even be legal to teach Greek mythology, but it obviously is.</p>
<p>Now there are people (such as the Discovery Institute) who claim with a straight face that intelligent design is somehow different from creationism, and that the name change isn&#8217;t just a cynical attempt to get around the First Amdentment and into science classrooms where it doesn&#8217;t belong. But judges aren&#8217;t quite that stupid, especially one judge in particular: John E. Jones III of the Middle District of Pennsylvania. He wrote such a good opinion on Katzmiller v. Dover Area School District that the Discovery Institute hasn&#8217;t been heard from quite as much since.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In the News:  David Coppedge Sues JPL for Religious Discrimination by Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As to the question of whether ID is &quot;religion&quot;, you might want to read the opinion of a federal judge on this exact question a few years back in a place called Dover, Pennsylvania. You might have heard of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the question of whether ID is &#8220;religion&#8221;, you might want to read the opinion of a federal judge on this exact question a few years back in a place called Dover, Pennsylvania. You might have heard of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In the News:  David Coppedge Sues JPL for Religious Discrimination by Phil</title>
		<link>http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/in-the-news-david-coppedge-sues-jpl-for-religious-discrimination/#comment-8627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? It&#039;s the plaintiff (though his attorneys) who has to state the law or Constitutional right under which he&#039;s &quot;praying for relief&quot; (that&#039;s the actual legal term). So if it&#039;s a religious discrimination lawsuit, it&#039;s because the plaintiff said it was -- even though ID is supposedly not a religious belief (cough cough).

The ID people have tried to play both sides of this game for far too long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? It&#8217;s the plaintiff (though his attorneys) who has to state the law or Constitutional right under which he&#8217;s &#8220;praying for relief&#8221; (that&#8217;s the actual legal term). So if it&#8217;s a religious discrimination lawsuit, it&#8217;s because the plaintiff said it was &#8212; even though ID is supposedly not a religious belief (cough cough).</p>
<p>The ID people have tried to play both sides of this game for far too long.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast #75: Young-Earth Creationist, David Coppedge, Sues NASA for Discrimination, and He Loses by David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/podcast-75-young-earth-creationist-david-coppedge-sues-nasa-for-discrimination-and-he-loses/#comment-8621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Gerard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 10:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooh, looking forward to listening to this one. This was just a great case in every possible way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, looking forward to listening to this one. This was just a great case in every possible way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Academic Freedom versus Stupidity by Jan Schipper</title>
		<link>http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/academic-freedom-versus-stupidity/#comment-8619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Schipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 08:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 4. No need for the Wiki, I remember that one from the day it was published. And I agree that his thesis is probably rubbish. But it&#039;s so far outside my field of expertise that my opinion is nothing more than a hunch. The more important question I think is; are we going to take away all Ph.d&#039;s which are based on rubbish research (good luck with that) or just those that reach a socially un-acceptable conclusion ? Whose values and norms to choose ? And I agree with Stuart that merely citing the &quot; bell curve &quot; without showing a correlation, isn&#039;t very useful. Just because his conclusions are the same does not automatically imply that his research is faulty. Alarm bells, yes, dismissing it out of hand, no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 4. No need for the Wiki, I remember that one from the day it was published. And I agree that his thesis is probably rubbish. But it&#8217;s so far outside my field of expertise that my opinion is nothing more than a hunch. The more important question I think is; are we going to take away all Ph.d&#8217;s which are based on rubbish research (good luck with that) or just those that reach a socially un-acceptable conclusion ? Whose values and norms to choose ? And I agree with Stuart that merely citing the &#8221; bell curve &#8221; without showing a correlation, isn&#8217;t very useful. Just because his conclusions are the same does not automatically imply that his research is faulty. Alarm bells, yes, dismissing it out of hand, no.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Academic Freedom versus Stupidity by Stuart Robbins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart Robbins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need to provide a source for that claim, considering that, based on be abstract, it was a nontrivial part of his dissertation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to provide a source for that claim, considering that, based on be abstract, it was a nontrivial part of his dissertation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Academic Freedom versus Stupidity by Deters58</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deters58]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 10:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3...did you go to wiki and read &quot; the bell curve&quot; article?!. First do that and then comment. Also Jason&#039;s committee readily and honestly admits they know nothing of the IQ research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3&#8230;did you go to wiki and read &#8221; the bell curve&#8221; article?!. First do that and then comment. Also Jason&#8217;s committee readily and honestly admits they know nothing of the IQ research.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Academic Freedom versus Stupidity by Jan Schipper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Schipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bit of a tricky one. I havn&#039;t read the thesis, so I can&#039;t comment on that but my first impression would be: bollocks to that. However he went through the process and got his Ph.d, and unless fraud was involved there is no reason to take it back. I should think that those who awarded him this Ph.d should examine how rigorous they&#039;ve examined his work and wether it should have been awarded. Academic freedom should make it possible to come to a socially un-acceptable conclusion, but only if the research is sound. There is also the danger of politicizing science, which happens to much anyway. If it&#039;s total b.s., let&#039;s use the proper scientific means to show he&#039;s full of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of a tricky one. I havn&#8217;t read the thesis, so I can&#8217;t comment on that but my first impression would be: bollocks to that. However he went through the process and got his Ph.d, and unless fraud was involved there is no reason to take it back. I should think that those who awarded him this Ph.d should examine how rigorous they&#8217;ve examined his work and wether it should have been awarded. Academic freedom should make it possible to come to a socially un-acceptable conclusion, but only if the research is sound. There is also the danger of politicizing science, which happens to much anyway. If it&#8217;s total b.s., let&#8217;s use the proper scientific means to show he&#8217;s full of it.</p>
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